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P.K. Haines's avatar

I have seen this critique of Piper over and over, and I am genuinely convinced it comes from a failure to listen to what he is actually saying...

Piper is in no way denying the doctrine of eternal security (better, perseverance of the saints). Even in this clip, he clarifies that the elect will never fall away. He is pushing back against the "one saved always saved" fire insurance kind of theology that has taken such firm root in evangelicalism and been so posionious. He is emphasizing that sin has real danger, and we should flee it because it poses an existential threat to us.

I hear him saying exactly what the author of Hebrews is saying...

"Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin." Heb 3:12–13.

The author of Hebrews is not here denying eternal security, and neither is Piper

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Drew Heurion's avatar

Anyone who watches the clip can easily see that Piper is in no way advocating that a true believer can lose their salvation. He even says in the clip that the elect will not fall away. But the warning passages are one of God’s means of producing perseverance in his elect. This sort of hit piece does not glorify God or edify the church.

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